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	<title>Comments on: 8885: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly [UPDATED]</title>
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		<title>By: Death Knights 3.1: Giving XI an aneurysm is just a fringe benefit (Updated 2/9) - Page 10 - Elitist Jerks</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-18615</link>
		<dc:creator>Death Knights 3.1: Giving XI an aneurysm is just a fringe benefit (Updated 2/9) - Page 10 - Elitist Jerks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] beta build, or they might just have been correcting misleading tooltips. For example, I found these old notes that give an example of the way Scourge Strike used to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] beta build, or they might just have been correcting misleading tooltips. For example, I found these old notes that give an example of the way Scourge Strike used to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sol</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-8990</link>
		<dc:creator>Sol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just do a whoever hits 80 within the first 2-3 weeks of WotLK&#039;s release..or first gross amount to hit 80 kinda thing. etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just do a whoever hits 80 within the first 2-3 weeks of WotLK&#8217;s release..or first gross amount to hit 80 kinda thing. etc. etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Draakie</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-5126</link>
		<dc:creator>Draakie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it&#039;s lame that only the first one gets that title, only the people with no-life have a change to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s lame that only the first one gets that title, only the people with no-life have a change to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: lordminkie</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4312</link>
		<dc:creator>lordminkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>honestly Horn of Winter is a lot like Shammy totem (strength of earth) except that it&#039;s probably a dispellable buff.

Also, I think they just removed the text about AP affecting spells out of all DK spells. It&#039;s a class function and it&#039;s repetition is silly.

The numbers and understanding of it isn&#039;t necessary to the average player, and is best reserved for theorycrafters and min-maxers =D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honestly Horn of Winter is a lot like Shammy totem (strength of earth) except that it&#8217;s probably a dispellable buff.</p>
<p>Also, I think they just removed the text about AP affecting spells out of all DK spells. It&#8217;s a class function and it&#8217;s repetition is silly.</p>
<p>The numbers and understanding of it isn&#8217;t necessary to the average player, and is best reserved for theorycrafters and min-maxers =D</p>
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		<title>By: Sidary</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4296</link>
		<dc:creator>Sidary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah i think the Horn of Winter is gonna act like a Shammy Heroism
for twice as long but around same CD. Just my thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah i think the Horn of Winter is gonna act like a Shammy Heroism<br />
for twice as long but around same CD. Just my thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Saoul</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4255</link>
		<dc:creator>Saoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Horn of Winter is gonna act like the Warrior&#039;s Shouts.


same principle atleast</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Horn of Winter is gonna act like the Warrior&#8217;s Shouts.</p>
<p>same principle atleast</p>
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		<title>By: rivendare</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4225</link>
		<dc:creator>rivendare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 11:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a completely different note, how do the talent changes affect frost tanking ? i see endless winter doesnt aply frost fever through frost strike and mind freeze anymore? is that now implemented in those skills similar to icy touch , or have we been given a thorough screw in the ear?

If any1 who plays beta has any information on this , plz post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a completely different note, how do the talent changes affect frost tanking ? i see endless winter doesnt aply frost fever through frost strike and mind freeze anymore? is that now implemented in those skills similar to icy touch , or have we been given a thorough screw in the ear?</p>
<p>If any1 who plays beta has any information on this , plz post.</p>
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		<title>By: Egma</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4202</link>
		<dc:creator>Egma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, to summerize take all those &quot;first to xxx&quot; titles you have, add the word &quot;Elder &quot; infront of them and then make the exact same goals, but rather then just reaching it first making it reaching it period and have it the names now. (Besides maybe obtain 80 since that would be just tossing out titles, but profestion wise it wouldnt, anyone to cap a profesion should get a title not just the one single person that did it .5secs before them because of lag)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, to summerize take all those &#8220;first to xxx&#8221; titles you have, add the word &#8220;Elder &#8221; infront of them and then make the exact same goals, but rather then just reaching it first making it reaching it period and have it the names now. (Besides maybe obtain 80 since that would be just tossing out titles, but profestion wise it wouldnt, anyone to cap a profesion should get a title not just the one single person that did it .5secs before them because of lag)</p>
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		<title>By: Egma</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4201</link>
		<dc:creator>Egma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, I would like to see more titles, but if they are only going to add &quot;first person to xxx&quot; titles they might as well remove them completely, I don&#039;t remember anyone b**ching about how &quot;easy&quot; it was to earn rank private by just getting 15 HKs (which generaly you get within 1 or 2 BGs), or how easy sergent and master sergent ranks where where as on most servers all you had to do was do 1 BG a week to keep sergent and 5 every 4 weeks to keep master sergent. I think titles are a nice idea, I think yes some should be hard to obtain, but not make it so all titles are &quot;elite&quot;.

Back in the good old ranking days pretty much anyone could achieve the 3 lowest ranks, but you actualy had to work to get one of the top 11 ranks, that was a good system and it was nice. I say bring back the having some simple to achieve titles but make the better ones where you have to work for, but boo to this only .0000001% of people can have titles now, I know they are prestige but seriously no one complained about how easy lower ranks where, why not add lower titles such as take your &quot;first to 450 Alch&quot; as Grand Master Alchemist change it to &lt;b&gt;Elder&lt;/b&gt;Grand Master Alchemist and have one that is just &quot;reach 450 alch&quot;

also add a few for &quot;Grand Master gatherer&quot; and &quot;Grandmaster Worker&quot; where who ever has 450 of either 2 professions or 2 gathering skills gets them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, I would like to see more titles, but if they are only going to add &#8220;first person to xxx&#8221; titles they might as well remove them completely, I don&#8217;t remember anyone b**ching about how &#8220;easy&#8221; it was to earn rank private by just getting 15 HKs (which generaly you get within 1 or 2 BGs), or how easy sergent and master sergent ranks where where as on most servers all you had to do was do 1 BG a week to keep sergent and 5 every 4 weeks to keep master sergent. I think titles are a nice idea, I think yes some should be hard to obtain, but not make it so all titles are &#8220;elite&#8221;.</p>
<p>Back in the good old ranking days pretty much anyone could achieve the 3 lowest ranks, but you actualy had to work to get one of the top 11 ranks, that was a good system and it was nice. I say bring back the having some simple to achieve titles but make the better ones where you have to work for, but boo to this only .0000001% of people can have titles now, I know they are prestige but seriously no one complained about how easy lower ranks where, why not add lower titles such as take your &#8220;first to 450 Alch&#8221; as Grand Master Alchemist change it to <b>Elder</b>Grand Master Alchemist and have one that is just &#8220;reach 450 alch&#8221;</p>
<p>also add a few for &#8220;Grand Master gatherer&#8221; and &#8220;Grandmaster Worker&#8221; where who ever has 450 of either 2 professions or 2 gathering skills gets them.</p>
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		<title>By: shynz</title>
		<link>http://deathknight.info/2008/08/8885-the-good-the-bad-the-ugly/comment-page-1/#comment-4183</link>
		<dc:creator>shynz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s disappointing to me in the sense that DK will instantly be taken out of the running for firsts in race and profession simply because they start at 55.  

Also, people leveling in beta over and over again have a huge advantage over those that aren&#039;t because they&#039;ll actually know where the hell they are going all the time.  

Poorly thought out and designed achievements for the loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s disappointing to me in the sense that DK will instantly be taken out of the running for firsts in race and profession simply because they start at 55.  </p>
<p>Also, people leveling in beta over and over again have a huge advantage over those that aren&#8217;t because they&#8217;ll actually know where the hell they are going all the time.  </p>
<p>Poorly thought out and designed achievements for the loss.</p>
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