Levelling to L70 plan

[Gravity]

Hi all,

This thread tells you how fast you can level from L60 to L70.
WotLK will reduce total exp required by about 30%. This reduction will be implemented in the 3.0 patch that will be live before WotLK content is for sale. Some specifics are below.

Notably, at L68 you can enter Northrend, and you should do so then, so really it's just L58 to L68 you need to get out of the way before new content is found. You will likely get to L68 in the fourth quest zone, Nagrand (detail below).

How long will it take
Your new DK will start at L55, do quests in his area and after completing them, will then pop out at L58.

Posters below quote from 30 to 60 total hours for L60 to L70 for live TBC content.
Reduced by 30%, you can expect to hit Northrend at L68 after 20 to 42 hours work in Outlands, and I'd say it'd be at the shorter-end of that range.

Ashur posts that he got to L58 in Nagrand, after doing the below:

Hellfire: I cleared every quest (except for the bombing ones, bugged at the moment). All elites soloed.
Zang: All, all elites soloed
Terokkar: All, all elites soloed.
Nagrand: I did 5 quests and killed a few ogres.

Preparation to save time
Get all the items for hand-in quests before WotLK is released. See this thread for details.

Also get the Argent Dawn boe items, they're not currently listed in the first post of that linked guide. They are:
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9136
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9126
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9131
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9124
http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=9128
Requiring (from the AH):
30 x Crypt Fiend Parts, 30 x Bone Fragments, 30 x Dark Iron Scraps, 30 x Savage Frond, 30 x Core of Elements.

Cloth turn-ins for 87K exp. To achieve, you need to get teleported by a friendly mage to each city, and have pre-banked:
 -- wool x60 x5 = 300 (15 stacks)
 -- silk = 300 (15 stacks)
 -- mageweave = 300 (15 stacks)
 -- runecloth = 300 (15 stacks)

Which quests to do in the old world first
1a. Do the WPL Cauldron quest series. This gets you to Friendly with AD.
1b. Then hand-in the four repeatables in EPL, once each, for exp.
Turning these Argent Dawn quests in requires friendly. You'll earn 100K exp in 30 minutes from doing so, see post 83 here.
3. Learn your bandaging to 300 in Menethil or Arathi.
4. Then hand-in the Blasted Lands buff kill-quests.
5. Then go to Outlands. You will nearly be L59 already.

6. About now, get a mage to teleport you to each city. At each faction turn-in, you can turn in once the complete set of cloths. There are five factions.
Here is the list of quests/exp and here is the list of all cloth quartermasters (so you can find them).

Which quests in what order in Outlands
Helpful addons for levelling quickly:
 - QuestHelper
 - Carbonite
These both tell you where to go for quests and in what order to complete them for efficiency.

Guides
There are some levelling guides below. They will be out of date for WotLK (because the exp per level will be reduced by about 30% when compared TBC to WotLK) but they could still help the process a little by optimising the quest selection and completion sequences.
 - James' free guide
 - Commercial guides: Brian Kopp, Team iDemise and Zygor
 - My favourite commercial guide is Zygor's, a friend has it, it's all ingame and integrated with Cartographer. Really easy to skip steps and it tells you where to go for each quest.
 
Free levelling guide
Tourguide at WoWInterface from Tekkub which sounds really superb.
TourGuide is an interactive leveling guide addon. It is designed to provide the user with a streamlined order of quest completion with smart detection.
This is like Zygor's guide, except free, and looks great.


How much was exp reduced in 60-70?
One beta tester noted down the reduced requirements for the first few levels:
Level 60 to Level 61 - 290,000xp required (494,000xp required on Live)
Level 61 to Level 62 - 317,000xp required (574,700xp required on Live)
Level 62 to Level 63 - 349,000xp required (614,400xp required on Live)

[Janus25]

XP needed have been reduced by 30%, making you hit 68 during questing in Nagrand, after that you should get to northrend ASAP. Time needed from 55-68 vary greatly between 15 hours and ~2 days (thats the timeframe I've seen from what beta players said, keep in mind though these are from prevoius builds)

[Xaragoth]

I never saw the Point in Guides I'm sorting everything by my own Memory and I did 58-68 in less than 16 Hours on the Beta Realms with my Deathknight. What about 57 to 58 you might ask ... well ... the DK-Questchain EXP seems to have increased, since some Friends of mine are Opt-Ins and only needed to kill around 10 Mobs to hit 58 ... or maybe they just gimped *g

So If you don't mind here are my few Tips, besides the Guidelinks

1. Ignore Instances. Instances are bad. They consume a whole Hour or more for a moderate or low XP-gain and some Blues, that are just a little better than some Outland Greens.
2. Gather ALL Quests in the Zone before you go on a Rampage. This Tip only works after 61, since before you only have a few Quests in Outland.
3. Sort you Quests after doing 2. There are ALWAYS at least 2-3 Quests for different Areas. Remember your Leveling with your other Classes. What did follow on this or that, it comes back to your mind most of the time. Also drop Quests for some Zones, if you only have one or two left in different Areas. Not worth the running.
4. READ the Questlog. While playing Beta I noticed some stupid people that always asked "Where is this or that". If the Quests are bugged on Beta, that's allright, but not if reading the QLog just once could stop you from wasting your - and other peoples time.
5. Always Group with someone that's doing the same stuff, if he or she is on your Fraction. There is just no point in stealing each other's Mobs, also Killquests go way faster. Also... most of the time you might have luck and get all the 3% Drops. Don't waste time on helping, you've what you need. He or she can group up with someone else, if he or she isn't done when another person shows up.
6. Evade useless fights with PvP-Nerds and Mobs. Just do what the Quests says, NEVER waste your time.

I hope some of these help people who don't necessary wan't to stick to Guides, but instead want to do it on their own.

Best Regards,

Mograth

[Gravity]

XP needed have been reduced by 30%, making you hit 68 during questing in Nagrand, after that you should get to northrend ASAP. Time needed from 55-68 vary greatly between 15 hours and ~2 days (thats the timeframe I've seen from what beta players said, keep in mind though these are from prevoius builds)

Doesn't sound right to me. Let's see if we can get more data.
L60 to L70 used to be about 10 hrs per level, let's say, so 70 hours altogether.
(Speed-levelling like Zygor does it in 49 hours.)

30% reduction from 70 hrs makes it 49 hours, which is more than two days.
Interesting though, 30% off Zygor's time makes it 35 hours, which would be superfast!!

If quest rewards are also buffed by 30% (which is what they did for L20 to L60 range, then effectively it's a bigger reduction, and that might explain the two day figure.

[Gravity]

...and I did 58-68 in less than 16 Hours on the Beta Realms with my Deathknight.

that's useful to know. I presume  the beta exp curve is even faster than launch will be, so that people can more easily explore the beta content?

[Janus25]

that's useful to know. I presume  the beta exp curve is even faster than launch will be, so that people can more easily explore the beta content?

no, blue said it's 30% less XP in beta and it will stay that way when WotLK goes live. Lvling in Northrend is problably much steeper than it will be when it goes live

[Gravity]

no, blue said it's 30% less XP in beta and it will stay that way when WotLK goes live.

What I don't get is why L58 to L68 would take you only 16 hours when before wotlk it would have been about 40 hours if you were super fast.

[Janus25]

What I don't get is why L58 to L68 would take you only 16 hours when before wotlk it would have been about 40 hours if you were super fast.

Death & Decay i guess. Those numbers are probably before the D&D nerf. You could kill 10 mobs simultanesly with it and not even having to rest afterwards. Also DKS never ever have to rest in outland because of low mana/health, so that cuts it down even more

[Bouregard]

are my few Tips, besides the Guidelinks

1. Ignore Instances. Instances are bad. They consume a whole Hour or more for a moderate or low XP-gain and some Blues, that are just a little better than some Outland Greens.

I usually do Instances with 4-5quests with friends. and they usually dish out a ton of Exp.
BUT NEVER EVER EVER DO FOR A SINGLE QUEST A RINSTANCE WITH RANDOOMS. ramparts 3hours 'nuf said. If we aren't whiping the healer or tank was afk.

[Xaragoth]

I usually do Instances with 4-5quests with friends. and they usually dish out a ton of Exp.
BUT NEVER EVER EVER DO FOR A SINGLE QUEST A RINSTANCE WITH RANDOOMS. ramparts 3hours 'nuf said. If we aren't whiping the healer or tank was afk.

With Friends it goes fast. But how many of your Friends will play a Deathknight ? In my case ... 1


To the "before D&D nerf" ... No it was after the nerf I could finally get some time to start playing, that is what I remember for sure.

To the "be done in 49 hours" ... Dunno ... I started playing 7 AM on a Saturday and played through until around 11 PM. My Spec was always a deep Frost until 63 when I started to spend points in Unholy and Blood. So when I hit 60 my tactic was: Pull one Guy, get RP up to 100. Kill Mob. Mount, get like 10-16 Mobs onto you, demount, do a Hungering Cold ... With the Old Runic Power Mastery I had 26s to spend time :p I summoned my Ghoul, killed one or two, hitting Mobs with Deathchill + Howling Blast before HC went off. That is the Point where it gets critical. I spammed D&D, used the Ghoul to get some mobs hitting him, while waiting for the crowd to die, spamming Abilitys and Deathcoil (Deathcoil Cost of 28 RP back there with RPM).

This was all done on the 2nd Beta Patch, if I remember correctly. By now it might not be as easy, but I believe I still could do it in <18 Hours or so. I'm pretty fast when it goes down to Leveling. My Paladin reached Level 60 back in the Days with a ingame playtime of 5 Days and 9 Hours, but that was my third Class. When TBC came out my Warlock needed around a week to hit 70, while School was going on.

Also ... I didn't need to learn Deathknights really much (due to me being a Nerd and learning everything when Alpha started), the massive starting wave was gone (there were like 50 DKs at max running wild in Outlands at that Day) and I remember nearly every Quest, just by getting it's Name and seeing the Questgiver on Alliance AND Horde - besides some Guys somewhere in Badlands or another Place I never went to Level-Up.


So ... The new EXP-Rate is definitaly HUGE. You need like 580k EXP for 70 if I remember right... The EXP for 71 was in fact 1.250k EXP, it was like "W00T?!". Done with Nagrand - Done with Outland is the current statement I can give you for sure about Deathknight Leveling to 70.

[Gravity]

So ... The new EXP-Rate is definitaly HUGE. You need like 580k EXP for 70 if I remember right... The EXP for 71 was in fact 1.250k EXP, it was like "W00T?!". Done with Nagrand - Done with Outland is the current statement I can give you for sure about Deathknight Leveling to 70.

sorry mate I don't quite follow your maths and figures there, 580000 and 1250000 exp for what?

[Xaragoth]

69-70 ~580.000 EXP needed for Levelup
70-71 ~1.250.000 EXP needed for Levelup

I haven't checked the currently needed EXP for 70 in TBC, but I'm sure it was around 800.000-1.000.000.
If you're finished with most Quests in Nagrand, you're done with the "I-Need-To-Do-It-Again"-Outland Leveling and can go to "Yippie-Ya-Ye-I'm-Finally-There"-Northrend. You can still get enough EXP for 73, maybe 74 if you do both starting Zones, despite the EXP you need to 70.

[Lothoran]

Doesn't sound right to me. Let's see if we can get more data.
L60 to L70 used to be about 10 hrs per level, let's say, so 70 hours altogether.
(Speed-levelling like Zygor does it in 49 hours.)

30% reduction from 70 hrs makes it 49 hours, which is more than two days.
Interesting though, 30% off Zygor's time makes it 35 hours, which would be superfast!!

If quest rewards are also buffed by 30% (which is what they did for L20 to L60 range, then effectively it's a bigger reduction, and that might explain the two day figure.

10 hours a level?  My feral druid is my most recent 70 and I averaged 2.5 to 3 hours a level.  My first 70 was my mage when BC released and it only took me about 6 hours a level then, and I had no prior knowledge about the BC beta.

It's crazy to see people's different opinion of fast leveling.

Honestly I'm hoping I can get my DK to 80 in a week, two weeks tops.  I don't enjoy leveling as much as I enjoy raiding.

[Xaragoth]

10 hours a level?  My feral druid is my most recent 70 and I averaged 2.5 to 3 hours a level.

It took me between 1 and 1.5 Hours for a Level ... May 2 for 68 on Beta. So it's likely cut in half, maybe less than that for the frst 2 or 3 Level. I'll most likely just play a whole Day straight when WotLK goes live to get out of Outland and atop of all these slow guys who only stop me in my /train-Tour through Outland. Don't think you can go to 80 easily. It takes a LOT longer to get to 80 than it takes to do 1-70 right now. Also there are like 5000 People in each Zone running Wild, maybe more on most Realms in Primetime.

You'll enjoy leveling in Northrend for sure, at least if you're in for Lore. These Quests they did for Northrend are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. It's like they turned them around 180° and made them all cool instead of a burden.

[Gravity]

Don't think you can go to 80 easily. It takes a LOT longer to get to 80 than it takes to do 1-70 right now.

I am going to LOVE the L70 to L80 part of the levelling: new content, new quests all the time, it's fantastic. I want it to take longer!

This has been very a informative thread so far, I'll update my OP with the comments a bit later, basically saying the L60 to L70 bit will go VERY fast.