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Author Topic: New defense runeforge..too good?  (Read 3784 times)
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DEADAELUS
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« on: January 06, 2009, 08:45:18 AM »

I finally downloaded the PTR client last night to see how I like the new blood builds. First thing I did was toss on the new +def rune enchant to see how much of a difference it was. In my current gear I was at 539, with the enchant 554 (I think, it was late lol). I even took off my saronite chest with the +22 def enchant and was still uncrittable. Doesnt this kinda make the goal a little TOO easy to hit?
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Shift
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 08:51:04 AM »

Icebound Fort...

might want to read about it before you get too hasty.
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Vigoth
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 08:51:41 AM »

actually i have problems with my tps and my mitigation (keep getting said that iam hard to heal) so this is a good fix... ill be able to resocket my gems from def to hit, expertise, mitigations or stamina...

Icebound Fort...

might want to read about it before you get too hasty.

yeah and ibf of course... forgot about that...
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Cnsnnts
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2009, 08:55:33 AM »

Doesnt this kinda make the goal a little TOO easy to hit?

Too easy compared to what? It makes the task comparable to that of warriors and paladins.
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Hmmokie
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2009, 08:56:05 AM »

Ye so?
Stop fcking complaining if something is to easy, enjoy the fucking thing dam.

Stupid ppl and there "i want a challenge", this is a game enjoy it, the easier the bettah yay.
If you want a challenge go climb the mount everest or something Face Palm
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Nexmilitis
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 08:59:51 AM »

I like the enchant - its gonna be of great use.  The +def change to IBF is also nice when combined with this enchant.  It will allow people to regem a little if they are a little low on +hit and still keep a strong IBF in their arsenal.
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Nexmilitis
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 09:03:10 AM »


Stupid ppl and there "i want a challenge", this is a game enjoy it, the easier the bettah yay.


This isnt true at all and there will be a lot of people who feel the same that if the game is too easy its a waste of time.  I like having a challenge in the game (sarth 3 drakes up - still cant kill him but getting there)
its nice to have to think about your enchants/gems/equipment decision - if things are too easy then I feel its not as fun anymore.

I like the challenge of making sure I stay def capped when I get a new item by swapping stuff over its all part of the fun.  I dont want these things handed to me on a plate tbh.
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Phalerite
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 09:06:43 AM »

Not sure what your gear but I am going to assume you are wearing mostly crafted gear. Take a look at any serious upgrade. Most of them have 1/2 the defense of crafted gear.

I for one look forward to it. Staying capped gets harder every upgrade. Warriors and pallys can use shields with a bunch of defense and have block to help mitigate damage. We have to gem ever thing for defense and can't gem for dodge or parry
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 10:05:01 AM »

Not sure what your gear but I am going to assume you are wearing mostly crafted gear. Take a look at any serious upgrade. Most of them have 1/2 the defense of crafted gear.

I for one look forward to it. Staying capped gets harder every upgrade. Warriors and pallys can use shields with a bunch of defense and have block to help mitigate damage. We have to gem ever thing for defense and can't gem for dodge or parry


This.

I just so happen to have logged out in the gear that I have and cannot wear.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Stress

I have to swap my gloves for level 78 crafted gloves and my pants for the epic ones from H VH.

Granted I dont have the Sons shoulder enchant yet and my luck with Loken has been laughable, still...have 3/5 T7 and not being able to wear it is rediculous. Bring on the new runeforge please.
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DEADAELUS
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 10:39:42 AM »

Damn....didn't expect people to be so defensive about it. True, I'm in crafted blues for the most part. I doubt I will be seeing actual end game content any time soon, thus I'll probably be stuck in this gear for a while.

 
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Hmmokie
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 12:13:40 PM »

This isnt true at all and there will be a lot of people who feel the same that if the game is too easy its a waste of time.  I like having a challenge in the game (sarth 3 drakes up - still cant kill him but getting there)
its nice to have to think about your enchants/gems/equipment decision - if things are too easy then I feel its not as fun anymore.

I like the challenge of making sure I stay def capped when I get a new item by swapping stuff over its all part of the fun.  I dont want these things handed to me on a plate tbh.
Time = Money, so no i want challenges for me ingame"imo" id still enjoy it even in gm mode.
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Airenda
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2009, 03:28:59 AM »

i think its gonna be good for new 80 tanks however i think that those that are geared or gearing wont probably use it.  or going to be in a situation where you have the new Def 2hs with the Def runeforge on it for boss tanking but you use a dps 2h with ROFC on it for threat generation.  or Cinderglacier or whatever if you are frost tank.

both the weapon and enchant are great additions and would have been amazing about a month or two ago.
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caervek
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 04:04:33 AM »

i like it, def capped atm but still 3% avoidance and 2% stam is pretty nice compared to the 4% parry one im using on live Smiley
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Unholydisypl
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 04:27:21 AM »

I get to replace my Defense trinket from Thaddius10 for the Parry trinket from Naxx25.

I'm stoked.
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Kaon
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2009, 05:08:14 AM »

4% enchant is still miles ahead (if you compare item values directly, you get at least 50% more from the parry enchant), so I won't use this enchant. Just no point to switch for not even 1000 HP while losing that much avoid.

Reaching 540 Def was never hard, anyway, nor was staying there. Putting stamina everywhere was always stupid for nonpaladins.
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