Incoming healing

[Iscariote]

Ignis and XT are the main problems atm...big continuous hits, and ESPECIALLY when XT hits me when the tantrum isn't over yet...

I'm always very vocal on vent or in chat to make the healers know who is tanking, have been ever since Nalorakk...

[salamondo]

Ignis is about 2 things : Off tank have to be quick enough to limit the number of adds to 2 maximum.
After that, in my beginer Ulduar25 gear, he can erase me in 2 sec (3 hit for 20k+ damage in a row). He's way harder in 25 than in 10 man. We still loose miserably on Ignis and don't even want to try him (even on 10man where he is farmed we don't bother doing him anymore)

For XT, keep IBF for the tantrum and your heals will stay near 100% during the tantrum and only for that.
[modify] On our first attemps, we tryied to kill XT while the big adds where offtanked, but the off tank always died during the last few percent when they got light bomb or during tantrum. Someone has to kill a few before there are 4+ adds.

PS : I didn't say that changes on Razor/Kolo aren't called on TS, but the healers assign to the MTs are deaf...

[Garavani]

Just an observation.

In it's current form Beacon of Light really sucks to put on your main healing target.  Currently if you overheal beacon doesn't send any healing to the beacon target.  In addition there is a small delay before the healing actually kicks in making it sub par for MT healing.  They are addressing the overhealing issue of this with 3.2.  I would say if your pally is smart he'll toss the beacon on an OT and just spam his holy light on you.

From my experience in ulduar 25 though you are going to get his hard.  If you are just starting your healers are probably just not used to it and need to adapt.  Personally every since ulduar came out I have been in love with a blood spec.

[Raptorg]

If there is no OT, what's the point really to put Beacon on anyone else but the MT?

Every bit of healing helps in that situation, really.

[Athilik]

My guild is in the same situation, except in 10 mans. Keep in mind I switched from DK tanking to priest healing, just some observations that might assist you:

The damage increase is MUCH higher than one would expect going from Naxx to Ulduar. Your healers are going to have to adjust. Flash of light doesn't cut it for tank healing in the same manner my Disc priest's flash heal doesn't cut it. Difference is my disc priest *has* to use flash heal as a filler, paladins aren't forced to use Flash of light because Holy Light isn't as "expensive" on mana regen for them as Greater heal is for Disc priests (for now, next patch will be brutal on paladin mana).

Also keep in mind your healers will be distracted healing the raid until they learn to predict the bursts (Ulduar is VERY predictable on raid damage).

There is so much lull - burst - lull - burst going on that I sometimes times find myself panicking at the rogue who has 1k life left and I end up skipping a beat on tank heals to assist our raid healer. This is BAD, that "beat" I missed could very well be what takes the tank from 70% life to almost dead. I recommend you have dedicated raid healers and to make sure your tank healers (preferably paladin or disc priest) understand that their job is to focus on tanks only, healing meters be damned.

While I'm on that thought, please make sure your healers aren't judging their performance based on HPS. This "competition" can lead to healers ignoring healing assignments.

Now some questions from me: How is healer mana at the end of fights? If they have too much mana left at the end of a fight they are either out gearing the encounter or they have too much regen and too little throughput.

In case I didn't get it across firmly enough: Healing assignments TRUMP healing meter competition. Having a dedicated raid healer, dedicated tank healer and dedicated decursers/dispellers/cures really takes the pressure off healers because they can focus only on the life bars they are assigned. It also conserves mana because it reduces the chance of heal sniping, which leads to one healer "wasting" a heal on the person who got sniped.

Lastly, do you have a disc priest? Do not discount the value of a dedicated tank healer who can maintain inspiration on tanks, reduce the damage taken by the entire raid by 3% from all sources, spam 7k+ bubbles in preparation for large amounts of burst on the raid (Bubble > Prayer of Mending before fusion punch and then spam the dispell button or Bubble ~15 people before flame jets on Ignis). Edit: Better question would be what your healer set up usually is.

[Iscariote]

thanx for all the feedback guys, tuesday is the next ulduar25 raid for me, so I'll have some data after that to check out...

[Gravity]

Great tips, Athilik.
also fyi I'm writing a guide on differences between 10 and 25 here. 1/3rd done so far.

[Iscariote]

last night's ulduar25 run: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/YDvSs45hEkKEdoLK/

On deconstructor I died and died and died as a MT

(oh, but yay, heart of iron dropped, as did the sigil from razor, weeee)

[Gravity]

Hi mate,

first XT-002 wipe:
 - your paladin healer Liva was using flash of light (he shouldn't)
 - you don't have enough healers focused on you as MT, I saw only three healers activity in the 10s prior to your death. You need more spam healing. There was a long period of simply no-one healing you
 - you barely ever had ancestral fortitude up (shaman crit heal), barely ever Inspiration (priest crit heal)

second XT wipe:
 - pally Sudeki using flash of light, but he was the only healer really paying attention in the 11s prior to your death, and did a holy shock when he noticed you were getting low (good man!)
 - no other healers were focused on you, just a priest HOT, looks like they were worried about healer agro so were going WAY too slow on their heals immediately after the pull

wierdness:
 - for some reason your DK Sorkanon is putting up path of frost up, repeatedly, tell him WTF

I didn't need to look any further mate, it's not you, it's your healers.

[Hive]

wierdness:
 - for some reason your DK Sorkanon is putting up path of frost up, repeatedly, tell him WTF

Made me lol 

[Iscariote]

Thanx for the hasty answer Grav, i appreciate it.

Now comes the hardest part...

Since I am fairly new in this guild and my healing knowledge is, well, very limited, I'm gonna have a hard time trying to put some suggestions in.

Is there perhaps a post on EJ or somewhere to link?

And yeah, it's a bunch of fun people, those things like Path of Frost, happens all the time...
Those things doesn't bother me, I think they are a bit fun, as long as we take down the bosses I'm ok with it, hehe

[Gravity]

Dunno mate, send them here?

edit: send them to
http://plusheal.com/

[Splug]

Gravity- Divine Aegis is caused by a heal critical, and provides an absorb shield for a percentage of the crit heal's value.  It's going to be gone the next time the tank gets hit.  What you'd want to look for is Inspiration (increases armor on crit heal, lasts for a fixed duration).

As a reference point though, here's Angry's WMO from last week's first night.  We don't have a disc priest on the roster regularly, though Aurora does keep it as an offspec.  Astanni and Melkadin usually handle all the tank healing.  Not sure if this helps any, but if it does it's worth sharing.

-Splug

[Gravity]

Thanks Splug, swapped them around oops. Edited my post.

[Gien]

As main tank for my guild, and having the "Fortune" of being raid leader, and not having anyone else in the guild with balls to do anything, i not only do tank assignments but heal assignments as well. I've found the best thing on myself is a Holy Paladin with either a Discipline Priest or a Resto Druid, preferring the Disc priest so that the druid can gogo raid heal n stuffs and help on off tanks requiring less immediate heals. Shaman aren't HORRIBLE on tanks either, i personally play one, but always get stuck raid healing in pugs. *shakes off the old B.C. Shaman heal assignment stereotype*